Monday, May 4, 2009

Are extraordinary events necessarily miracles?

Religious people refer to extraordinary events in their lives as "proof" or "indication" of the truth of their faith. My simple calculation however, shows that extraordinary events are bound to occur not necessarily because of a god, but because of chance. If every human on earth were to experience just 1 thing every day (no matter how trivial the experience), for every day of their lives..


6.6 billion * 1experience *365days/year, the number of possible events comes to 2.4 trillion, some the same, some different. Now we calculate the number of events during the average lifetime of lets say 30 years pessimistically. 2.4tril*30=72.3trillion events.


Out of 72.3 trillion possible events(minimum), MANY so-called "miracles" are bound to happen on their own, without the intervention of a god.





Anyone find any problems or missing pieces to my statement?

Are extraordinary events necessarily miracles?
The term "miracle'' is an argument from incredulity, which is a fallacy.
Reply:I see a huge problem with your statement. It is based on the premise that these extraordinary events are without the intervention of God, however, you can not and do not prove that. That is, how do you know that these events occured without the intervention of God? You don't. So, people like you will see these events as random happenings but one who believes in God and has faith will see them as miraculous. Until someone can prove the existence or non existence of God, we will all be left to interpret events based on our own belief and value system.
Reply:No. A miracle is an event that cannot be explained in natural terms. If a person is near death from a systemic infection and antibiotics have not worked, but then the antibiotics kick in and the person survives, that's pretty extraordinary, but it doesn't qualify as a miracle, because it has a natural explanation - the antibiotics finally kicked in. But if a person has malignant tumors in his lung that have been identified by biopsy, and is scheduled for surgery, but his church community prays over him, and the morning of the surgery the family insists on another xray, and there is no sign of tumors - that's a miracle. And yes, such things do indeed happen.
Reply:No, because if you expect EVERYTHING God says in His Word, then when it happens, no matter how extraordinary it may seem, it's normal for those who TRULY believe.

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